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Paul
GOD DISPERSED PEOPLE INTO 70 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES AFTER THE TOWER OF BABEL TODAY THERES MORE THAN 200 LANGUAGES
Comment from : Paul


feisty mind
11:17 hell of introduction
Comment from : feisty mind


Asad Fami
Starts at 11:08
Comment from : Asad Fami


Kavorka Games
Since most infrequent words are just Latin words, "demanate" is a bad example of a made up word because if there was ever a need for a word meaning "to remove sea crows" that word would be demanate One could argue that it is a real word, as much as eructate is, just so infrequent that it has not been used yet
Comment from : Kavorka Games


Fermin Olivera
Fantastic series I know the word evolution may be a turn off for many Dogma has a way of dimming illumination and discovery
Comment from : Fermin Olivera


Pichan
Even well-bred, at times brilliant people can be narrow-minded, prejudiced and ignorant This is sad!😞
Comment from : Pichan


Carlos Novo
Animals communicate but do not have language…
Comment from : Carlos Novo


Kyler Flook
Several inaccuracies Not suitable for an academic lecture
Comment from : Kyler Flook


Nilamoire
Dogs and cats given ASL buttons who learn to communicate w humans through them have TONs of things to say, even pondering things like “why dog?” “Why love me?”
Comment from : Nilamoire


g k
Many claims that are highly debatable (at best)
Comment from : g k


Alla Kassianova
This self-complacent arrogant species chauvinist supposed to be a “scholar” displays a closed mind, absence of humility, obsession with being right, contempt to incredible complexity of evolution, just ironic but also scary to observe
Comment from : Alla Kassianova


Oscar Granda
Book of urantiabetter than hoy bibleto understand our evolution!!!!
Comment from : Oscar Granda


Oscar Granda
Excelent!!!!what does he think about denisovansand how does he believe that simbolysm is only our? ???
Comment from : Oscar Granda


Mamta Sharam
Its really amazing to listen you sirI am student of archaeology and my interest in each and every branch of this subject Thank you for this series
Comment from : Mamta Sharam


Isis Johnson-Brown
28:12brHe is a linguist "The rewards they want is food" Should it read "are food"?
Comment from : Isis Johnson-Brown


vinm300
"Theory of mind"brLots of animals have thatbrWhen one walks into the garden, birds land on the feeder to remind you to feed thembrWhen one points to foos on the wall they go to the food, brthey don't land on your finger (well some doves do, but they were a one-off)
Comment from : vinm300


Michael McBroom
i believe Pagel is missing a crucial point, and that is the evolution of the human vocal tract (HVT) I would argue that it required much more time for the HVT to have evolved to the state it is in today than he's suggesting with his 200,000 year time frame It is most likely that the HVT's emergence began with H erectus, and it began because H erectus was using some sort of vocal communication in an increasing manner Which necessarily means that Neanderthal had some sort of vocal communication as well, and given Neanderthal's brain size, it would argue, at least, for language The Neanderthal vocal tract is sufficiently evolved to produce language I emphasize the evolution of the vocal tract for this reason: when it began to evolve, humans lost the ability to breath and drink at the same time In all other terrestrial mammals, the nasal tract can link with the trachea, which allows one to breath and swallow at the same time, but when the HVT began to evolve, this link was broken It eventually led to a condition where any human risks choking with every bite or sip he or she takes Now, why on Earth would such a hazardous condition be increased over time? It would seem to be counter-evolutionary, in fact But it was occurring because of one simple fact Vocal communication had become so important to the species that it had supplanted the dangers of the new shape of the HVT So, does vocal communication mean language? No, at least not right away There was most likely a long evolutionary process that had to occur with both the vocal tract and the brain before modern language finally emerged So, in that respect, 200,000 years might be plausible, but only if we're talking about full-blown modern language
Comment from : Michael McBroom


Vegard Aukrust
Typical british nonsens I rather listen to Dan Everett
Comment from : Vegard Aukrust


leonis53
You forget that the Mediterranean dried out several times, so, who is to say that we didn't spread out of the Mediterranean After all the Med had the optimal temperature, whereas Africa was and is hot as hell
Comment from : leonis53


marte thompson
Indo-European is much older than Hebrew
Comment from : marte thompson


Gordon Willis
"There" is consonant-vowel or consonant-diphthong (or consonant-vowel-consonant if in your dialect you pronounce "r" every time it occurs, and does anyone pronounce the final "e" as a distinct sound?) "TH" is a simple consonant represented by a combination of two letters (the Roman alphabet doesn't have a single sign for it, so a "digraph" is used; likewise for the simple consonant represented by "sh") In my dialect (standard British English), "R" is only pronounced at the beginning of a syllable, so for me, "there" is just one syllable: consonant-diphthong, therefore (according to context) two or three sounds, NOT five soundsbrbrOur speaker is confusing letters (written symbols) and consonants (actual sounds) We say that K is a consonant, but what we mean is that K is a symbol (written sign) that stands for a consonant (actual sound) I think that when discussing matters of this kind we need to bear such distinctions in mind, otherwise we can say all sorts of things that are misleading or simply wrongbrbrSo when Pagel says that "there" is "consonant-consonant-vowel-consonant-vowel" he is confusing our modern spelling system with the sounds that people actually make: not FIVE sounds but just two (like me) or three (like him) My point is that language is, in the first place, what people say, not what people write A five-sound word would be something like "acids", "tripped", "spotty" Speakers of different dialects might happily squabble about the number of sounds in "conservation" or "integer" or "laboratory", but in doing so they will realise that however we speak, the spelling is merely a conventional use of symbolsbrbrThe reason why this bothers me is that I would expect a person who is talking about the origin of language to understand this distinction at a basic level The fact that he is confusing such distinctions is, to say the least, worrying Does he think his audience is too stupid to understand the distinction between real things and the symbols we use to represent them, or is he disguising a tendentious argument?
Comment from : Gordon Willis


Charles Justice
cooperation and sharing are possible without language, in fact it's their presence that makes language possible So it is false to say that it's language that makes them possible A vocabulary is a shared body of words It's not possible to have a language without the sharing of words and meanings
Comment from : Charles Justice


Charles Justice
Words don't compete, biological organisms compete Words are tools Tools do not compete or do anything apart from their use by persons
Comment from : Charles Justice


mrbfarrar
I love the lecture, but it could be called, “Fuck other species”
Comment from : mrbfarrar


Robert hodgins
Why on earth did he apologize for the use of the word “man” at around 19:45 ?
Comment from : Robert hodgins


Find Bridge
"out of Africa" is false
Comment from : Find Bridge


Subject and Predicate
1:15:48br"I think (!) they (neanderthals) lived a very literal existence"brA rather poorly thought out adjective, given his disbelief in Lingua neanderthalia But that is not surprising, when he doesn't even know the etymology of the word, "language," demonstrated earlier in this drivel
Comment from : Subject and Predicate


Subject and Predicate
1:03:10br"everything about his body is designed to lose heat"brHe's black!
Comment from : Subject and Predicate


Subject and Predicate
Wot about this idiot's picture of the uterine system for hid "historical" chart of human movement
Comment from : Subject and Predicate


Hari Prasad
Homo erectus was the first hominid species to leave Africa and spread into Eurasia It was immensely successful, flourishing and surviving from about 18 million years ago to as recently as 100,000 years ago (the most recent survival was in Java) Many scholars believe that homo erectus had mastered not only Acheulean tools (the bifaced hand-axes found in Africa and Eurasia), but also fire, and possibly some language capability That is, in fact, a major explanation of its evolutionary success - cooperation in small bands, made possible by language That is not to say that later species (Homo heidelbergensis, or Neandertalensis, were not even more evolved They were, and that is why modern humans came across them and interbred with Neandertals and Denisovans The consensus of scholars now is, in fact, that modern human beings had evolved by around 300,000 years ago It's a pity that Mark Pagel doesn't give sufficient consideration to conclusions different from his own
Comment from : Hari Prasad


Morgan Rasmussen
Stone tools seem simple, until you try to make them
Comment from : Morgan Rasmussen


Brian Kleinschmidt
Skip to 11:15
Comment from : Brian Kleinschmidt


Subject and Predicate
Oh dear,br"in 1879 he (Darwin) wrote that "I have never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God – I think that generally an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind"[103][197]"
Comment from : Subject and Predicate


Subject and Predicate
From Wikiedia,br"Darwin's first paper showed that the South American landmass was slowly rising, "brDarwin's wrong! Global warming points to higher oceanic levels
Comment from : Subject and Predicate


Subject and Predicate
And wot about the immediate claim that has me worshipping the Biblical God, as if there aren't any other Gods and no definition of God!brClassic ignorance from the "thientithts"brIn theory it's about empirical evidence; but in practice it's about clinging to the life raft, "thienth," and spewing the crudest vulgarities of emotion Ha,ha!brIt's the old one, two "See, we holding the banner, "Thienth," so, whatever we thay, ith thientific and twue And that meanth you can't have an opinion, unless it agreeth with outh!
Comment from : Subject and Predicate


Subject and Predicate
Darwin was a wonderful creation of God!
Comment from : Subject and Predicate


Victor Emman
The question about hebrew as a mother language makes no sens This man need to know that hebrews didn't invent the phones of hebrew alfabet, so hebrew digs in a cradle of semitic languages, from east africa toward western india The thing we answer to this question, it's that hebrew language was relatively well preserved through 4000 years, so like the sanskrit language, they both still carrying anciant archeologic logos called etymas (double consonnant, oldest trace of words), and so both language are till witnesses of the mother tongue (mother tongue of western languages)
Comment from : Victor Emman


Verónica Droppelmann
Entiendo que los neandertales no sólo vivieron en Europa, también lo hicieron en Asia
Comment from : Verónica Droppelmann


Hunter MK2
Incredible topic and under 10k views Meanwhile a dude falling down the stairs get 20M hits Gotta laugh!
Comment from : Hunter MK2


Danl Hendle
But do you know what is a Scottish kiss?
Comment from : Danl Hendle


René Matei
He is the most condescending, arrogant person ever Enforcing his theories through rhetorical language abuse like Cato does not make them right But this „Why we have language and others (implied: definitely) had/ have not“ is beyond your capacity to prove
Comment from : René Matei


Subject and Predicate
Animals don't have "Theory of Mind?"brYou haven't been around dogs or horses When they want something, that you can get but they can't, they'll let you know They know you When you point to something, they'll look to or for it
Comment from : Subject and Predicate


Subject and Predicate
I'll be glad, when these blokes have to work for their living, ploughing fields, growing food, etcbrThat's not to say there won't be study, but these blokes won't be studying anything but the wooden handles of their ploughs and which ones give them fewer blisters
Comment from : Subject and Predicate


Hermione3 Müller
I just listened to an interview of an archeologist by stefan milo on neaderthals and symbolism It has been proven that neanderthals had some kind of symbolism, and as they interbred with us, it is extremely unlikely that they did not have some kind of language Carvings, pigments, even constructions of larger size for nonpractical but symbolic reasons have been proven for neanderthals
Comment from : Hermione3 Müller


Justin Greenough
after 15 minutes of introduction and accolades that no viewer gives a damn about
Comment from : Justin Greenough


Mario B
Nice presentation! But if language is the pinnacle of the Sapiens evolution towards sophisticated communications capabilities it sounds quite odd that the speaker refuses to even consider the hypotethis that Neanderthal's communication capabilities stuck somewhere between Erectus and Sapiens Little adherence to evolutionary thinking It seems and thin argumentative support for that kind of positioning
Comment from : Mario B


Marvin Mauldin
Neanderthal hyoid bones have been found, indicating the physical capacity for speech, and I have seen reports of Neanderthal associated flutes, although I would like to see positive proof that they were made and used by Neanderthals
Comment from : Marvin Mauldin


Mehmet Ali Samur
It was a well-explained lecture Thank you very much
Comment from : Mehmet Ali Samur


double negation
Talk starts at 11:00
Comment from : double negation


zentratus krypto
At 29:43 the speaker is being fairly chauvanistic about what constitutes language, specifically in that homo erectus and neanderthals' tool kits were too crude to be evidence of "real" language Contrast his position with any of the recent lectures by Daniel Everett for a very different take
Comment from : zentratus krypto


Sarah Fraser
What about the development of languages other than European languages ?
Comment from : Sarah Fraser



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